I have not yet understood how to understand(lol) if a cfg is proxyless or needs proxy. Ppl told me run that cfg with some random combos and try if without proxy run "fine" or not.

Start looking for 403 Forbidden Errors to trigger in the Status Code. Usually associated with an error message similar to in the "data.Source" variable:



If you start getting errors after running 5x,10x,25x,etc combos then you know a good first choice would be to try plugging in some proxies. Quality of proxies depends upon site security levels, whether Tier 3 or Tier 1 proxies will be required. When in doubt try to shoot for 0 IP Score according to https://scamalytics.com/ (which is also a great knowledge resource!)

Usually most sites are going to require proxies or should involve proxies because its harder to track and isolate a bunch of random IP addresses, it improves your general "incognito" status; when running Cred Stuffing configs.

Just test by running a job with 10x bots and without proxies, if it runs then let it keep going, if you can run thousands of lines without any error then you're Proxyless. If you can run 25+ Without Issue then you're Tier 3 Proxy. <10 Per and your Tier 2 & Tier 1 would be <3 (and I don't mean I love you!)

On 4/24/2025 at 9:23 PM, datapower said:

Start looking for 403 Forbidden Errors t

usually websites put random 4xx on purpose to be less specific and not to reveal "where the attacker was wrong", for example "invalid Login" and not "you only wrong Password". So my question is: if a site in case of a client-error always shows the same status code how can I trigger 403? or did you intend to trigger 4xx in general? btw I think I understand... I just have to click start in the config stacker debugger and see how long "the site holds my requests" if after a while a 4xx error comes out then it's not proxyless (correct me if I'm wrong) right?

Yeah kinda like, If its working then after X amount starts not working, checking for IP based banning is suggested!

Also check the same url status using various proxies, to isolate if its IP related.

Possible Reasons/Possible Solution for a 403 Error:

• Insufficient Permissions:

  You might not have the necessary access rights to view the specific page or file you're trying to access. 

• Server-Side Issues:

  A problem with the server's configuration, like incorrect file permissions, can prevent you from accessing the content. 

• IP Address Restrictions:

  The server might be blocking your IP address, potentially due to security reasons or rate limiting. 

• Firewall or Security Software:

  Your firewall or security software might be blocking access to the website. 

• Browser Add-ons or Extensions:

  Certain browser extensions, like ad blockers, can sometimes interfere with web server requests and cause a 403 error. 

Possible Troubleshooting a 403 Error:

• Refresh the Page:

  A simple refresh might resolve a temporary issue. 

• Clear Browser Cache and Cookies:

  Clearing your browser's cache and cookies can help resolve issues caused by stored data. 

• Disable Browser Extensions:

  Temporarily disable browser extensions to see if they are causing the issue. 
  

• Check Your VPN:

  If you're using a VPN, try disconnecting and then re-attempting to access the page. 

Also brother, don't forget to "humanize" your configs, like random page clicks/loads, random idle time, shit like that, DON'T SLEEP ON THIS SHIT BRO FR!

Fresh Session, Clear Cookies, Random UA, Random page loads in between grabbing tokens, whatever you need to appear more user like and def not bot like depending upon site security.

u v been very helpful bro thank u very much. About letting the config run in the runner and see if it is proxyless or not, when i run a cfg with random combos and PROXY OFF... usually two things happen 1) not a fuck starts. no hit no bad no retries ... and I doubt that maybe it's a problem with my low end pc ... but other cfgs (same combos, proxy off) runned very well. 2) only reties usually happens to me when I use proxy on (I know it depends on the quality of the proxies but it happens both if I use free proxy and if I use paid rotating proxies datacenter or res)

Remember also that many factors go into Proxy IPs, such as;

IP Type

IP Rep

IP Score (see https://scamalytics.com/)

I would need to see exactly the config attempted when you got this error:

1) not a fuck starts. no hit no bad no retries

1. Enable Bot Logging:

   • Go to the "RL Settings" in OpenBullet 2.

   • Enable the "Bot Log" option for jobs. This will allow you to see detailed logs for each bot's activity.

2. Adjust Ban Loop Evasion:

   • In the config settings, set the "Ban Loop Evasion" value to a low number, such as 1 or 10. This ensures that lines triggering errors or bans are flagged quickly.

3. Inspect Logs:

   • When running a job, lines that encounter repeated errors or bans will be moved to the "To Check" section.

   • You can click on these lines and select "Show Full Log" to view detailed information about what went wrong.

4. Debugging:

   • Use the debugger in OpenBullet 2 to test your config step by step. This helps identify where errors occur and allows you to make necessary adjustments.

5. Save Logs:

   • Ensure that logging options are enabled to save error details. This can help you analyze issues later and refine your config.

On 4/27/2025 at 5:07 AM, datapower said:

Remember also that many factors go into Proxy IPs, such as;

IP Type

IP Rep

IP Score (see https://scamalytics.com/)

I would need to see exactly the config attempted when you got this error:

1) not a fuck starts. no hit no bad no retries

1. Enable Bot Logging:

   • Go to the "RL Settings" in OpenBullet 2.

   • Enable the "Bot Log" option for jobs. This will allow you to see detailed logs for each bot's activity.

2. Adjust Ban Loop Evasion:

   • In the config settings, set the "Ban Loop Evasion" value to a low number, such as 1 or 10. This ensures that lines triggering errors or bans are flagged quickly.

3. Inspect Logs:

   • When running a job, lines that encounter repeated errors or bans will be moved to the "To Check" section.

   • You can click on these lines and select "Show Full Log" to view detailed information about what went wrong.

4. Debugging:

   • Use the debugger in OpenBullet 2 to test your config step by step. This helps identify where errors occur and allows you to make necessary adjustments.

5. Save Logs:

   • Ensure that logging options are enabled to save error details. This can help you analyze issues later and refine your config.

another question bro (sorry hahah) how do I know if datacenter or residential proxies are needed? ye ye i know that residential are preferable but i have seen some cfgs that required data center proxy so... maybe because it is config that can be runned proxyless but for opsec reasons you prefer to use proxy...

Residential vs. Datacenter Proxies: Which One Should You Choose?

1. What Are Residential Proxies?

Residential proxies are IP addresses assigned by Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to real devices, such as smartphones or computers. These IPs are tied to physical locations, making them indistinguishable from regular users.

1.1 Key Features of Residential Proxies

• Authenticity: Appears as a real user, reducing chances of being blocked or flagged.

• Rotating Options: Many providers offer rotating residential proxies, switching the IP after each request or session.

• High Anonymity: Almost impossible to detect, making them ideal for stealthy operations.

1.2 Best Use Cases

• Web scraping on highly protected websites.

• Managing multiple social media accounts without bans.

• Accessing geo-restricted content or platforms.

1.3 Pros and Cons

Pros	Cons
High trust and low detection rates	Expensive compared to datacenter proxies
Works well with complex websites	Slower speeds due to routing through ISPs
Ideal for tasks requiring authenticity	Limited availability in some regions

2. What Are Datacenter Proxies?

Datacenter proxies are not linked to ISPs or real devices. Instead, they are generated by data centers, making them faster and more affordable.

2.1 Key Features of Datacenter Proxies

• Speed: Operates at lightning speed due to their direct connections.

• Affordability: Low cost compared to residential proxies.

• Consistency: Static IPs for reliable use.

2.2 Best Use Cases

• Bulk data scraping where speed is crucial.

• Testing and automation tasks.

• Cost-effective solutions for non-critical applications.

2.3 Pros and Cons

Pros	Cons
Fast and cost-effective	Easier to detect and block
Great for non-critical or high-volume tasks	Not tied to real devices, lacks authenticity
Widely available	May require additional obfuscation tools

3. Choosing Between Residential and Datacenter Proxies

3.1 Consider Your Use Case

• Stealth and Authenticity Needed? Go for residential proxies.

• High Volume and Speed Needed? Datacenter proxies are your go-to.

3.2 Factor in Your Budget

• Cost-Conscious Projects: Datacenter proxies offer great value.

• Premium Tasks Requiring Trust: Residential proxies are worth the investment.

4. Using Both for Maximum Flexibility

For some workflows, combining residential and datacenter proxies can be a game-changer. Use datacenter proxies for non-sensitive, high-speed tasks and residential proxies for stealth-critical operations.

Best thing IMO is to ALWAYS use proxies when running any config on a target website. To me its just common sense why one would want to always use proxies!

6 hours ago, BigMONEYG said:

ALWAYS use proxies

sometimes proxyless is better for running cfgs... more faster and smoother, with proxies you have delays and retries if you buy poor ass proxies...